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I've written a little examination of your article on my site. You may wish to read it, you may not. I'm sure there will be many happy XP users who will thank you for pointing out their ignorance and lazyness.
http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/too-l...
Bringing Linux and OS X as a reply to this article is pathetic. You might want to learn how to understand the title of a post, and the context as well before trolling again.
Secondly, I don't think all the people that aren't switching to Windows 7 are missing out on as much as you think they are. Your points may apply for those that are staying with XP, but no so much for those that switch to Mac or Linux. Cases in point:
Security: both Mac and Linux are well known for being more secure than Windows. They don't require anti-virus protection at all and, in the very unlikely event that malicious code was able to infect them, their basic design greatly limits the amount of damage the code can do, relative to a Windows infection. (This is true for Linux to a greater degree than for Mac, but still both are inherently safer than Windows)
Faster: Linux is faster too, and with its modular nature, it can be optimized if desired, stripping out or swapping out components to tailor the OS's performance for either general purpose or specialized uses. I don't think Windows 7 is going to offer that level of flexibility. Also, how well does Windows 7 compare to XP on slightly older hardware? I know a lot of gamers seem to think XP still offers better performance in gaming over 7.
Stays out of your way: Well, most Linux desktops pretty much do the same thing, with notifications and whatnot. They can also use scheduling to automate tasks such as updating, backing up folders, etc. I'm not as familiar with OSX, but it probably has similar features. Seems like a tie here.
Better looking games: you got me here. If you want to game, use Windows. If you want to do productive work, Windows, OSX, and Linux are all generally viable options.
Codecs in Windows Media Player: how is this an advantage over other systems? Especially since WMP 11 still doesn't support some codecs, such as mkv. If someone wants to use a media player with all the codecs baked in, the best choice is VLC player, which is available as a free download for Windows, OSX, and Linux. This player includes practically everything.
Customization and personalization: OSX probably loses this one, but Linux has it in spades. With all the choices of desktop environments, including the myriad possible customizations and theme selections within each desktop environment, anyone using Windows XP or 7 is missing out, relative to Linux, in this regard.
Multitouch: OSX pretty much invented this, and it is alive and well in Leopard and probably Snow Leopard as well.
So again, the whole point of this post isn't to bash Windows 7 out of hand, but simply to point out that most if not all of the features that you claim people will miss out on due to not moving to Windows 7 can be had today from already released software. In addition, some of the software I mentioned is open source, and therefore freely available at no additional cost.
This article is about giving reasons why people should move on from XP to 7. It applies only to thos who are using Windows XP.
My post was aimed at XP users. I could care less what claims you wish to make around 7 or if people want to stick with XP. It was you giving the ignorant/lazy reasons not me.
I hope you now understand.
Why can't you act like an adult and debate properly? I know nothing of you, nor you do me. Have another read of the comments here. You can't even get the support of a Windows user.
The saying "if it isnt broke dont fix it" is a valid one, although according to you and your "reasons" it could be one of just lazyness and ignorance.
Oh and maybe you would like to further explain your comment of:
"Ridiculous propaganda by ridiculous blogs who like sucking up to Apple and live an anti-Microsoft life."
when I put it to you that you are guilty of the same thing in relation to Microsoft.
and I haven't ridiculed other OSes like you have in your anti-MS blog. it's for people like you who I have moderation turned on. I wont be afraid to use it.
And support for Windows users? coming from the guy who uses 'linux for human beings'? LOL. You are a joke.
you are a linux shill wasting my time. period.
The only thing standing between me and Windows 7 is my computer's specifications. While it may be faster than XP, it would require better hardware which I lack at the moment.
As far as the whole debate about XP guys not shifting to 7, hmmm oh the great goblin, I wonder why did people switch to XP in the first place? Windows 3.1 should've sufficed going by your logic!
For some that may be XP or others it may be 7 (or even Workbench 1,3/AmigaOS) It's not laziness or ignorance if you like using a specific package,
So if, as a previous poster says he will have to upgrade his hardware in order to run 7, are you saying he should do so and part with cash even though he seems happy with XP?
BTW Mr Hussain, in order to prevent you deleting my comment (like you did the last one) a screen dump has been taken.
The great Goblin? thanks very much. Looking at Mr Hussains previous articles it does appear I've managed to stimulate some debate on his site at last (even if he's taken to censoring/deleting posts he doesnt like)
Keep taking screenshots, it doesn't make any difference. You started the flaming by tagging your post with really nice words and comparing my post with Linux. Why?
You do need a reality check. This post is targeted towards the average user who ask himself why he should upgrade to 7. Good luck in converting them to linux!
You are trying really hard to gain visitors and publicity by linking and commenting on this post. You're even creating some 'emails'?! about it. Nice job with the trolling. You've already gained a bad enough name with your comments and blog post. Keep it up!
Such people are lazy & ignorant (at a level different than yours) You think the world is full of faggots like you but unfortunately it isn't. There are those who are classified as "consumers" who don't give a rats ass about a lot of stuff AND TO THEM IS THIS POST DIRECTED!
And as far as, "don't fix it if it ain't broke is concerned" hmmm .... so essentially you mean that new features/developments aren't what should drive technology but the whole & sole reason for any technological advancement should be something broken in the previous iteration? No wonder Lin(s)ux is where it is, it's idiots like you promoting it!
The first comment I've seen you make which actually has a valid point. Sure there is no proof to say whats real or not, however by your own words people can make their own minds up about your opinions and to be fair, Ive received nothing which you havent already seen here or have already deleted from your comments.
Quote "You’ve already gained a bad enough name with your comments and blog post"
Sure. Even if I had, why does it matter? Readers and those deciding on future software solutions will have their own opinions and thats fine. Thats the point of debate, I make mine, you make yours.
Why are you claiming I want to convert people to Linux. That is a lie. My point was, if someone is happy with XP why should they upgrade?
I'll end on your first sentence:
"I know people who are lazy or ignorant to just not upgrade to newer OSes. Such people who don’t even upgrade the firmware of their iPod touch or iPhone to take advantage of the newer features. "
So? Whats wrong with that? Is that not freedom of choice? If users dont want to upgrade thats fine, you should not seek to suggest these people lazy and you certainly should curb your immaturity and potty mouth if you have a point you want to put across.
To be fair, I wanted to convert anyone to anything, it would be back to the days of WB1.3 and the golden age of computing (IMO), if you had read my blog before making libelous remarks you would have known that.
No my silly friend. Upgrade, just because you can is pointless. Linsux? LOL We both know where that names used dont we?
I agree though, nobody is really debating here, thats why its rare any of the articles here get a discussion going. Mr Hussain is busy with his potty mouth (and being supported on Twitter by someone who openly admits to infringing copyright)
After a few sensible comments by legitimate Windows users, the rest are insulting and childish. You are right, theres no debate here.
As for your theory about upgrades, I don't see many Vista uses who upgraded from XP being happy. Maybe thats why they downgraded back?
Where-ever Linux is now, its more popular than it was a year ago so I'd suggest the trend of trying something new (and not just Linux) is becoming more popular.
The advantages of an OS which has yet to hit the shelves are a little hollow when you consider people are happy with XP. Thats not being stuck in the past, thats exercising freedom of choice.
Your implication that refusal to upgrade could in some way harm advancement is a little rich when you consider the actions of certain proprietary companies and their patent portfolio's. (IMO)
After re-reading your comments I get the word "sock puppet" coming to mind. Maybe its not, maybe its your pirate friend from twitter coming to your defense again....
I'll let readers be the judge and I'm sure you will have some more theories when I post my new article.
Regards
Goblin.
"After a few sensible comments by legitimate Windows users, the rest are insulting and childish. You are right, theres no debate here." My apologies, but someone's got to speak the truth ;)
"As for your theory about upgrades, I don’t see many Vista uses who upgraded from XP being happy. Maybe thats why they downgraded back?"
Yes, there are lot of people who are unhappy with upgrading to Vista & that is why Microsoft has been rather vocal about it's Beta & RC programs for people to decide whether they want to upgrade or no. But from what you're saying it's somewhat suggesting that because people upgraded to Vista from XP, didn't like it and went back to XP they should not try out 7, they shouldn't move to 7, which is rather surprises me as a comment & discourages me from indulging in a conversation.
"Where-ever Linux is now, its more popular than it was a year ago so I’d suggest the trend of trying something new (and not just Linux) is becoming more popular."
yes it took it a decade to come here ... its ever so popular :)
"The advantages of an OS which has yet to hit the shelves are a little hollow when you consider people are happy with XP. Thats not being stuck in the past, thats exercising freedom of choice."
Which makes me certain of something Imran has been trying to point out, you're trolling. It's not hit the shelves but has been available as a public beta & then as public RC for a really long time. SO anyone who talks about advantages after spending time with these builds is in a really good position to express his opinion.
But if you seem to be talking without trying out either which raises a ? on your competence to speculate on the matter. If you have something like, "win XP users shouldn't upgrade 'coz it offers nothing better than XP & were to substantiate your claim, then there would be a discussion or a debate. Until then you should realize that you're trolling.
"Your implication that refusal to upgrade could in some way harm advancement is a little rich when you consider the actions of certain proprietary companies and their patent portfolio’s. (IMO)"
Taking your reasoning that one shouldn't upgrade because the previous isn't broken one can only draw this conclusion.
"After re-reading your comments I get the word “sock puppet” coming to mind. Maybe its not, maybe its your pirate friend from twitter coming to your defense again…."
Me a pirate? lol I'm rich.
"I’ll let readers be the judge and I’m sure you will have some more theories when I post my new article."
Please do link it here so that I can rip it apart.
I myself have an MSDN Premium id too.
Piracy? lol!
Why are you trying to make this a Linux v Windows argument? My point was (and is) if a user is happy with XP, there is no reason to upgrade. It is neither correct nor polite for Mr Hussain to consider a non upgrading user ignorant or lazy.
Trolling? Last time I checked it was Mr Hussain with the swearing and insults.
If you had read (or remembered) the post I made before you would have seen I also made the point of popularity != better OS. What ever figure you want to put on Linux use its more now than ever (whatever that figure is)
"Please do link it here so that I can rip it apart."
LOL. Yes I've seen your "ripping apart" (Im very impressed!?!) and I think I've received a few extra hits as other people want to see it.
Of course I will link, although I would have expected you to have been able to work out where my blog was by now.
Regards
Goblin
Let's keep Linux out of this since you want to, and since you raised the question of my age, lets go a little more down memory lane & come to XP's launch. Microsoft was written off by the tech community only 6 years later to have you defending your right to use XP.
I still haven't read a comment where anyone has tried to make a case that 7 isn't a worthy upgrade, all I've been reading is that XP is "good enough". You haven't tried 7 to know what you're missing or what you're not. Which makes the point Imran's talked about, people are being lazy to even try out something new & would be happy with what they have, something that can be attributed to ignorance as well. So in all this banter you've actually been giving Imran concrete proof of what he's trying to say. :)
Oh and Goblin, you can stop trolling now. All your posts here onwards will be marked as spam. I don't support trolling specially on my own blog. Do whatever you want on your blog, but your 15 minutes of fame here are over now. Take a screen dump of this, and frame it on your wall.
P.S. for you thinking you brought a discussion to my blog, I link to this image for your pleasure: http://www.twitpic.com/8ovc4
And go cry to your mom for freedom of speech. I just don't allow bullshit.
As for Goblin, my advice is to ignore him. He seems to be overconfident and underestimates others. I understand the annoyance some people can be, but staying calm is the best way to see through situations.
Coming up to Linux vs. Win its not a topic to be discussed here coz whatever one say i myself believe Linux to be best for an average user and not a hardcore gamer for the availability of Wine makes games for windows playable in Linux too, no flaming is intended here.
The thing which I had like to say is that the final decision is always on users about whether he wants to use any software or not and calling them lazy for there decision is wrong for some of them may not have enough time to download that or not enough bandwidth........................I myself have been using Win for last 3-4 years and now i am really bored of it but still have win 7 installed for its my requirement and for (b)ME(/b) win 7 is the best win ever but if someone who has tried different distros its always them they had like to choose
I'll admit it.
I DON'T play games, FUNCTION outweighs FORM every time, stability means more to me than prettyness or that extra gadget.Changing OS isn't about lazy/not lazy. Changing OS can be hard if you are in a business environment. In a corporate environment, try telling them that it is "better". For something to be better, it must offer something you need at a price that is acceptible to whoever is paying the bill. "Media Centre functionality" or "extended DVD playback while on battery" won't cut it in most corporations.
How can anyone claim that a brand-new OS is more secure? It can be built to be secure (and I have seen little real evidence of that) but the real test is when there is a few million or more, doing real things with it, installing all those apps on it, surfing wherever you want to surf and it doesn't get compromised.
"Chase-the-next-version-because-it-is-better" - Surely we are smarter than that? If there is a compelling reason to upgrade (and I use that word with caution - the first release is usually troublesome) then do it. Otherwise you are spending time and money to achieve nothing apart from the "I've got Windows 7" bragging rights. I'll take an established, pretty strong, pretty reliable tool that XP SP3 had EVOLVED INTO, over the marketing hype of a new product that carries all of the "it's faster", "It's more secure" etc comments that have been rolled out at every Windows launch.
I'm NOT anti-Windows, I am a business-grade user that doesn't fall for the hype, doesn't need a workspace with fancy effects, but needs security, stability and support. We have an all Windows environment. Change for the "better" is good, as long as you can clearly identify what better means for you. Change for the sake of change or because something is "shiny" is just dumb.
It's the average joe who has the most to gain.